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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Feb 1, 2008 8:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dead heads for obama show in sf on 02-04...

who the fuck decided that all deadheads are for
obama..give me a break.if he's the Inspiration
for american people we are a sad bunch.follow the
money trail to see what he's really about.to bad
phil and bob had to get back together under this farce.

This post was modified by tigerbolt on 2008-02-02 04:04:39

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Poster: bigbossdan Date: Feb 2, 2008 12:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dead heads for obama show (politics hijack)

In all fairness, I don't think anyone is suggesting that "all deadheads" are for Obama. I think its also fair to say that many attendees of this show won't give a damn what Obama stands for, they will be there to see the show. And how many will find themselves unable to find their way a voting place the next day?!?

I do find it interesting that after years of not being openly active in election politics, that the influence of these band members is being brought to bear here.

As far as his campaign funds go, I'm not sure how far a principled stand of shunning corporate money gets you in this media environment. The media doesn't pay attention (meaning lock out of debates, no news coverage of campaign, no invites to Meet the Press)to candidates unable to demonstrate fundraising prowess (see Richardson, Bill or Kucinich, Dennis or Brownback, Sam)regardless of their ideas. If you are serious about getting elected (rather than simply running)it is questionalble strategy to turn down big money contributions. Further, if your rivals are taking in these donations, how can one compete in the absence of such donations? Mind you, I'm not defending the current system - and would prefer one that is completely publicly financed - but it is the system we have, and candidates have to game it in order to win.

Obama isn't taking PAC money. The money coming from business is in the form of individual donations. If you go to www.fec.gov you can see that while he's received donations from individuals employed by Big Pharma (look up by Merck, Pfizer etc), he's not alone in that, by a long shot. Many people are donating to many candiates. I find it interesting that he's received nearly 1/3 of his total from individuals donating less than $200 and approx 45% from those who contribute less than $1000.

For myself, all the candidates I wanted to give my primary vote to have dropped out of the race, and I'm not sure what kind of enthusiasm I have for any one who's left. What's a guy to do, other than stream the show from iclips next week?

Peace,
Dan

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 2, 2008 5:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dead heads for obama show (politics hijack)

The event is entitled "Deadheads for Obama '08". If you doubt this is what is indeed called, check out Phil's site:

http://www.phillesh.net/

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 1, 2008 8:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dead heads for obama show in sf on 02-04...

THANK YOU TIGERBOLT!

for some condensed reasons why I'm not an obama man, check this out:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_timothy__080201_move_on_has_gone_mai.htm

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Poster: grflded Date: Feb 2, 2008 5:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dead heads for obama show in sf on 02-04...

Boy what garbage. I will not vote for Obama, however ANYONE that Move-on supports lives is NOT worth voting for. Move-on is the most corrupt, socialist whining organization in the free world!

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Feb 1, 2008 8:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dead heads for obama show in sf on 02-04...

nice link bluedevil not all of us are so easily fooled.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Feb 4, 2008 4:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: dead heads for obama show in sf on 02-04...

I decided that (all deadheads are for obama). Actually the gathering is to generate support, not loyalty pledges.

Nazi deadheads can stay away. You are "the brown acid."





This post was modified by spacedface on 2008-02-04 12:24:48